@Murtag like I said, the information was thought to be true when it was issued. When we found more things to work on regarding the server we updated the information. At no point was the public mislead or given wrong instructions

@Chinatown please close that Development Updates thread to only be for you admins so i dont need to read all cries and bs and look if you somewhere in all the pages did some update.

Where did I say you did it on purpose? Misleading can be either deliberately or inadvertently. Mistakes have been made, and like I said before, I don't judge.

@Murtag again, there were no deadlines or exact dates set. There were expectations expressed along with conditions that had to be fulfilled for the expectations to be met and that was clearly relayed to the community. What you are implying, is that information which is no longer correct today, was also deliberately incorrect the moment it was given, because such was the intention, which is not correct. As a result, your Oxford definition doesn't fit this scenario, as you are using a wrong label for a wrong object. When we said we are expecting the server to be live in the autumn - such was our desire and expectation based on the information we had that moment. At that moment there was no apparent reason to believe such expectation could not be met, however being careful, we did not provide a date. While the expectation was not met, it was not intended to be wrong and was clearly presented as a desireable result rather than a fact or promise

Oh I agree, setting milestones is different from misleading. On the other hand sharing milestones and then not meeting the expected predictions equals misleading by the definition as per Oxford Dictionaries: "Giving the wrong idea or impression". Anyway, you made your point.

@Murtag it was said that we expect the server to be live in those months, yet we did not provide any specific date. Furthermore, it was announced multiple times, that Dawn will be live, when it will be live is still yet to be announced and that this whole period is designed to be a chance to participate in Dawn's development. There are no specific deadlines, end times announced yet that we would be obliged to meet. Setting milestones is different from "misleading" and I think you can clearly tell the difference as well. Which is why we never removed our messages of when we expect the server to go live and we removed false information that could confuse the users. We don't simply delete messages. We moderate the forum to provide the best experience because this forum acts as your mentioned "information board"

It was sarcastic, quite a difference. Missleading is when you tell users that server will be open oct-nov and cannot deliver or announce beta in 2 days with a monthly delay. I don't judge btw, just pointing out. Deleteing messages makes a wrong impression and creates doubts. Get an information board instead so people can find their asnwers there rather than creating an opportunity for trolls to answer them on shoutbox or discord.

We don't question the usefulness of the messages, however we prefer our users not to be mislead or confused

@Murtag hello, as explained previously, the message was not "inconvenient". It was misleading and as such was removed for the benefit of the users themselves

Do you suggest that only useful messages should be posted here? I didn't know it's an information board. I think you misunderstand the purpose of shoutboxes in general. I wasn't here before so I can speak only for what I see now can but no matter how good CT did in the past, there is always room for improvement.

@murtag because msg like " server will open in 2020 lul" are very useful right? ChinaTown already did a good job, that why there is still ppl here after 3 years.

My hypocricy sense is tingling. Moderating forum and deleting uniconvinient messages, especially on shoutbox [lol], is not the right approach either way. Not a good way to start a moderator carieer either.

@ytr hello there, your previous message was removed for being misleading and confusing in regards to the question being asked. No other actions were taken against your account

giving moderator to this guy removing my msgs from chatbox proves that whoever is in charge of this server is not a serious person, good luck with your project.

Server is still in development as the announcement states right above the chat box

Hi, where to download the patch?

these so far

did ct decided on the rates?

no

server on?